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  Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

  stephanie fessler v watch tower.

  stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

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  Richard Oliver

  I am sure that is going to be a subject to an appeal.
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  Stephanie Fessler v Watch Tower - Trial on Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2017 in Pennsylvania

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://avoidjw.org/2017/02/stephanie-fessler-v-watch-tower/.

  stephanie fessler v watch tower.

  stephanie fessler was brought up as a jehovah’s witness by her parents, jodee and kevin.

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  Richard Oliver

  Apparently, PA allows for a civil claim to be brought when a criminal statute is believed to be broken. Not many states allow this. Many civil cases have been dismissed in other states because normally there is no private cause of action that is allowed if a criminal statute or a family law regulation. It will be interesting to see what happens during this case and sure the appeal that will follow.
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  Australian Royal Commision round 2

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  round two of the australian royal commission into institutional child abuse has all the makings of a very damaging event for the organization, if what is going to happen to the catholic church is any indication.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/royal-commission-most-catholic-archbishops-to-give-evidence/8240208.

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  It appears from the ARC website that the second case study is about the policy changes that the ARC has recommended and that if any have been implemented by Watchtower.
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  Trump vows to repeal limits on churches

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know the jws would not necessarily take advantage of this (or may be they would) but certainly, they will spin it off somehow.. https://www.yahoo.com/news/religious-looking-trump-protections-081209487--politics.html.

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  The rule that he is talking about is the Johnson Rule. It basically said that the IRS can fine or revoke a non-profit status if non-profits, especially churches engage in active political work. That would be trying to promote one candidate over another or encouraging their members to vote for a specific person.

  Technically, Trump can't remove the rule, that would take Congress, but he can direct the IRS not to enforce that rule.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  Richard Oliver

  Well life too short. I can't prove a negative so if you think that I am a WT lawyer that is your right. I am not a liar and telling you the truth.

  But while you were reading those primary sources did you not see that it is not this easy fix that some people keep on thinking or claiming it is. There are laws involved that do have to be changed.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  Life is to short:

  You are right I am probably biased, again that is human nature, we are all biased one way or another, it is recognizing those biases and trying to work on them that is key. If you have read those primary sources, then that is very good. I hope you recognize that it is not a black and white issue. There is a severe number of complex issues that have to be taken into account.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  Richard Oliver

  Life is too short:

  I am not going to get into a debate with you. I have no idea who Landy is, I am not a WT lawyer or work for Watchtower in any way. I am not illiterate and I do know what NPR and PSB are, btw Trey Bundy produced it for PRX, not NPR. In fact the only times my radio is not on NPR is when my stations plays APHC, I dislike that program so much. I listened to the report that Trey Bundy produced, and he did provide an opportunity to have Watchtower respond to him and did what a legitimate journalist is supposed to do.

  I listened to the report that Trey Bundy produced, and he did provide an opportunity to have Watchtower respond to him and did what a legitimate journalist is supposed to do. I think he did do as fair of a report that he could do under the circumstances. Because Watchtower did not agree to be interviewed all he could do is rely on Zalkin and his clients in reporting this matter, which of course is bias, that is just nature. I couldn't say that Bundy could have done anything differently under the circumstances, because he could only report from one side of things.

  Though I have seen many things on here which also shows that people don't like to get the whole story. I have seen statements where they use JW Survey as a primary source. First of all most of their information is based on what they read from other sources and will spin it the way that they want to. Second most of their articles is commentary and not journalism. Why do I bring this up, is that you have to understand what to read and where to read things. Primary sources are things that have no or little spin and commentary in it. Those are reports by government agencies like the ARC, decisions by courts or statements by police. Life is too short, have you read any primary sources on this matter? Have you read the full ARC report or the Conti decision or the Lopez decision? Or are you just relying on what other people tell you, of what is in it.
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  UK: Paul Shields "abused girls after luring them with video games"

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  fyi from north-east england:.

  http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/johovahs-witness-abused-girls-after-12538877.

  jehovah's witness abused girls after luring them with video games, court told.

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  There is a different legal obligation if a person confesses to a crime and when a victim tells the elders. If a victim tells the elders they should do all that they can to convince the victim or the family to go to the police, and if they don't than if allowed, the elders should go to the police. But in many jurisdictions it is different if the perpetrator tells a minister, in many places all that can be done is to urge them to report themselves, but the confidentiality of the communication bars them from reporting it. That is why I asked Steve for what is his legal and ethical obligation as a therapist. Lawyers and doctors are in the same boat, if their client tells them something, they are bound to never tell anyone what is said in that confidential communication. In fact, under HIPAA the intentional divulging of confidential information is a serious felony with severe jail time if convicted.
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  UK: Paul Shields "abused girls after luring them with video games"

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  fyi from north-east england:.

  http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/johovahs-witness-abused-girls-after-12538877.

  jehovah's witness abused girls after luring them with video games, court told.

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  Richard Oliver

  Steve2:

  I have a question for you. You are a therapist correct? What is your ethical and legal obligation if a patient of yours comes in and tells you that he has committed a crime, even a crime of child abuse?
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  UK: Paul Shields "abused girls after luring them with video games"

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  fyi from north-east england:.

  http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/johovahs-witness-abused-girls-after-12538877.

  jehovah's witness abused girls after luring them with video games, court told.

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  Richard Oliver

  I swear I am not trying to get into a debate. But the process did work.